Introduction
Code Geass is an interesting anime because while it does hold harem Esque tropes it’s hard to label it as harem anime.
The reason is that for it to be a haram the man has to show mutual interest in the multiple love interest. The problem is Lelouch does not obviously show interest to any of the women.
I am of course referring to simply declaring his love for any of the romantic love interests.
For someone who has lots of time to notice, we do not see Lelouch doing this.
This is a topic that fans debate about quite often and this is because it is never obviously stated who Lelouch actually loves.
So in this article, I will discuss Lelouch’s relationship with the three main women who love him; Kallen Kozuki, C.C, and Shirley Fenette.
I am not including Euphemia or Kaguya because there is not enough evidence for either one. For Euphemia Lelouch said he might have loved her implying he does not. But this does not take away how much he cares about her. Remember he was going to end the rebellion because of her. Also, they have had many moments in the past. My favorite is when Nunnally and Euphy both argued who was going to marry Lelouch.
And with Kaguya, if there was love it was one side. Lelouch never showed her any mutual interest. Lelouch told her in Stage 23 that he already made a deal with the devil and has no room in life for deities.
Also, I am not going to entertain the idea that Lelouch loved Nunnally more than a sibling. There is no proof of this and it’s simply an argument that I refuse to discuss outside of this point.
The goal here is to state the case for and against the three main love interests.
In the end, I will state based on the evidence and through my analysis which one Lelouch has the most mutual love for.
Two disclaimers:
- My analysis will only be based on Code Geass Lelouch of the Rebellion R1 and R2 and any media based solely on that. So, no alternative films, OVAs, etc.
- This analysis will contain spoilers
- This is just my opinion which comes from what the show gives me and how I interrupt it.
- Lelouch’s feelings towards each of the three girls is the topic here. Not who in theory is the best couple, who should be with Lelouch, or which girl loved him. While I do have some of those elements in here, the majority of the analysis has nothing to do with that. This means that counterarguments that use elements from these topics are not relevant.
Updates:
When I first discussed this topic I only shipped Lelouch with Kallen and C.C. But after writing this article, I can see him with Shirley as well. So I ship all three of them with him. Also, I realized that some points need more information and more points are needed so this article has been updated.
I also recently uploaded a video that also goes through this topic you can watch it here.
Who Did Lelouch Really Love? The Case for Shirley Fenette
Despite Shirley’s role in the plot, there are examples to indicate the Lelouch might love her.
There is some factual proof that Lelouch did care about Shirley.
Nowhere is this more obvious than in episode 14 of R1 and 13 of R2 and it was not by accident or coincidence that both episodes 13 and 14 or R1 and R2 revolve around Shirley and her impact on Lelouch.
R1 Episode 14 was the aftermath of Shirley discovering that Lelouch was Zero.
After Mao had trouble using his Geass to read Shirley’s thoughts, Mao left the two to retrieve his gun to murder both of them
Thankfully C.C. interfered and stopped him.
Shirley at this point is panicking and can’t handle the fact that she killed someone or that Lelouch is Zero. Zero was responsible for her father’s death.
With not many options Lelouch embraces Shirley and erases her memories so she no longer has to be dragged into this.
After Lelouch erases Shirley’s memories they exchange a conversation here is a snippet from it.
Here we learn that Lelouch might have at one point saw Shirley more than a friend but this may no longer be the case.Shirley “Oh hello um did you lose someone in your family to“
Lelouch “Ah no not someone from my family it was a friend someone who was very important “
Shirley “I understand “
Lelouch: “But I didn’t know until after I lost her and I realized how much she meant to me how much her smile saved me and how I will never be able to argue or laugh with her like that again “
Shirley “I see you loved her didn’t you, you must feel terrible “
Lelouch “Right now I don’t know anymore “
This is important because it’s the only time Lelouch actually directly addresses who he has romantic feelings for or cared for, to begin with.
We learn that while Lelouch may not have feelings for Shirley anymore it can be argued Lelouch truly loved her because of his previous feelings. It is also important to point out that Lelouch has known Shirley for a longer time than the other girls. So it’s possible that he fell in love with her the fastest than Kallen and C.C.
Lelouch discussing his feeling about Shirley Code Geass R1 Episode 14 at 21 min 30s
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Lelouch’s reaction to Shirley’s death could be another proof of his love for her.
Lelouch finds Shirley on the ground with a bullet wound and immediately understands what has happened.
With panicked tears in his eyes, Lelouch commands Shirley not to die with Geass but it was to no avail, she dies anyway.
Because of Shirley’s death, Lelouch is enraged and blames her passing on Geass. He goes one step further by using Shirley’s death as justification to massacre the entire Geass order.
Lelouch acted similarly after he had to erase Shirley’s memories. But in that case, he only blamed C.C. and took no further action.
This proves to be a big deal because the only other time Lelouch just loses it is when he finds out that Suzaku is the Lancelot Pilot and when he believes that his sister died in the explosion caused by the F.L.E.I.J.A. warhead.
We learn from this that Lelouch only shows his true rage and regret when someone close to him is hurt. Since he acted this way because of Shirley we learn that at the very least he considers Shirley much more than a friend.
This is a fair argument but it’s not without its issues that will be addressed in the arguments against Shirley.
Lelouch showing his emotions while Shirley is dying. Code Geass R2 Episode 13 at 21mins 49s
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Lelouch’s Proof of his love comes from keeping her at a distance
Some have argued that erasing her memories and ignoring her was Lelouch’s way of protecting her. C.C. even told him “you need to distance yourself from those you care about”. So you could actually interpret ignoring as keeping them out of the conflict altogether. Now there is some merit to this being a proof of love. After all, it shows that Lelouch needs her to live. This is what he tells her when she hanging on to his arm on the building.
Now I never saw this as proof of love but if you believe that keeping people out of your life to project is, then this is a valid argument for sure. Lelouch was aware of her intentions and kept her at a distance.
Lelouch’s actions show a level of concern beyond a good friend.
They also have fun moments together in the series. Lelouch is very comfortable around Shirley. He always puts up this tough demeanor when talking with Kallen. C.C. is the only character where Lelouch acts this way. My favorite example is when he talks to Shirley in Turn 12. He was not acting as a Zero just Lelouch and if the Rebellion never happened this could have the couple to end the series.
Shirly states in R2 episode 13 that she forgives Lelouch for killing her father
So in a way, Shirley loved both Lelouch and Zero which proves her love is not only for a personality that Lelouch created. This fact gives Shirley a strong case for who Lelouch could return his feelings.
Lelouch’s true love is someone who loves every part of him, not just the ones they prefer.
A fun moment with Shirley and Lelouch. Code Geass R2 Episode 12 at 5m 19s
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Who Did Lelouch Really Love? The Case against Shirley Fenette
Lelouch only admits that he cared about Shirley’s wellbeing.
When Shirley jumped off the roof in R2, Lelouch grabbed her hand he told her that did not want to lose anyone else who was close to him.
This is just one of a few examples where Lelouch explains he cares for Shirley. But without a confession of romantic love, it is hard to see any more than just a good friendship. I understand that Lelouch keeps to himself but this one the time to do it. He could have at least spoke to Shirley privately afterward if fear of embarrassment was the problem. Not he could not do this immediately afterwards since Jeremiah had to be dealt with. But what would have sold it for me if he simply asked Shirley to talk to him after saving her.
But it never happems. However, Lelouch’s actions go against his words in terms of his feelings. One proof is how Lelouch ignores her throughout the series.
Lelouch telling Shirley that he cannot lose anyone he cares about. Code Geass R2 Episode 13 at 10m 30s
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Ignoring her was a mistake and more importantly a sign of how low of a priority she was in his life.
Lelouch knew that Shirly has feelings for him and she’s important to him so why did he not tell Sayoko to be careful around her. Sayoko kisses Shirley as Lelouch without even considering that it could be an issue.
It is addressed what happened later on but it was played off for laughs in a filler-style episode. Lelouch is so dense that he thinks getting her a gift is enough to show that he is apologetic (I understand that he initially gave it as a gift for missing the dates but it also could have been for the kissing event as well). Lelouch was completely dense to Shirley’s feelings.
Lelouch does not even realize by the end of R1 that Shirley is aware that was something was done to her. Instead, Lelouch still chose to ignore her. Every time that Shirley wants to talk he dismisses by either ignoring or promising to discuss it later. He even does this in the episode where they casually address Sayoko kissing Shirley. I understand he needs to keep her at a distance but can you really use that to justify every reason why Lelouch ignores her.
There comes a point where maybe it’s more than that maybe he does not have feelings for her. Or he used to. I understand the point about keeping those close to you but it’s not catch-all. And the other thing to note is that when Shirley could be useful for Lelouch all of sudden the keep her distant no longer applies. Which is too convenient for me.
Sayoko as Lelouch right before she carelessly kisses Shirley. Code Geass R2 Episode 11at 18m40s
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Lelouch also ignored Shirly’s advances in R1 including the event that she got tickets for. True he did agree to go but was going to most likely cancel it.
After all, he had more important things to do. Shirley was an afterthought to Lelouch unless she is in physical danger or an obstacle\asset in his plans.
For example, Lelouch only went with Shirley to get Villetta a gift so he could defeat Rolo. He only answered Shirley’s call to get advice on love but immediately hanged up once he got what he wanted.
Showing interest when it is convenient in my mind does not demonstrate real love for someone.
Final Verdict:
This was a one-sided relationship, ultimately for her protection and possible romantic reasons, Lelouch ignores Shirly throughout the whole series.
It’s possible that Lelouch had feelings for her but the problem is that he never cared enough to act on them. There are moments where you can see that Lelouch has feelings for Shirley.
But what kills it for me is that Lelouch simply ignored Shirley too much and only cared about her when it was convenient to him. I do believe that if Lelouch never started the rebellion they may have ended up as a couple. And I understand what he was doing to help her but it was odd to me that keeping her at a distance was broken sometimes for his convenience.
One thing I know for sure Lelouch did not see Shirley beyond a good friend and they definitely were not a couple during the original series. In conclusion, Lelouch does not see Shirley as a love interest but merely as a best friend that he wants to protect.
Lelouch using Shirley as an opportunity to get Rolo. Code Geass R2 Episode 3 at 17min 36sec
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Who Did Lelouch Really Love? The Case for Kallen Kozuki a.k.a Kallen Stadtfeld
Lelouch’s actions make up for confessing his feelings for Kallen.
Let start with R2 episode 19 after the black knights learn that Lelouch was Zero. Kallen takes Lelouch to meet up with the black knights not knowing the reason.
When it turns out they want to kill Lelouch for treason, Lelouch double downs on their clams and confirmed that Kallen was that a pawn.
But when she walks away he whispers to her to live. This is the second time that Lelouch has told a love interest to live. This can be an argument in favor of the claim that Lelouch cares about Kallen’s wellbeing.
The next possible proof is when Kallen is captured and Lelouch declares no one will stop him from rescuing her. Lelouch apologizes for taking so long to rescue her in R2 episode 19 which is a sign that does care about Kallen.
Lelouch telling Kallen to live. Code Geass R2 Episode 17m 24s
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From time to time Lelouch will tease Kallen.
For example, Lelouch commented that he could see her naked in the shower in episode 3 of R1. He also teases about the revealing clothing in episode 2 of R2.
But Lelouch does do the kind gesture of covering Kallen with his jacket when she was wearing the bunny suit.
He also teased Kallen in R2 episode 4 about the nature of their relationship which could be interrupted as an interest beyond friends.
Kallen responding to Lelouch’s jokes. Code Geass R2 Episode49s
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Here are other examples of where Lelouch showed love interest in Kallen
When Lelouch and Kallen speak for the last time, Lelouch does not answer Kallen’s question about why he told her to live so she says goodbye to Lelouch.
Lelouch, sadly mumbles a goodbye to Kallen as she walks away from him. His demeanor can be compared to someone’s reaction to a breakup.
In R2 episode 9 Lelouch asks Kallen to come back with him to Ashford academy after this is all over.
He was about to explain himself when C.C. interrupts him. If Lelouch was to profess his love or deeper feelings for Kallen this would have been the moment.
Lelouch constantly nudges the idea that Kallen can leave the black knights because it may be too much for her. Lelouch does not have this conversation with other members of the black knight.
While we do not have exact proof here are the best examples of where Lelouch might have shown his care for Kallen.
Lelouch and Kallen sharing a moment together. Code Geass R2 Episode 9 at 4m 23s
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Who Did Lelouch Really Love? The Case against Kallen Kozuki a.k.a Kallen Stadtfeld
People wrongly use R2 episode 7 as proof.
The reason why I reject this as evidence for a romantic relationship between Lelouch and Kallen is because of the dark conversation between them.
Lelouch is going to take Refrain an illegal drug that causes serious side effects. So anything he says during this time probably does not reflect his true feelings given his mindset.
Lelouch asks to comfort him because of his depressed state.
What is important to point out here is that:
- He does not refer to her as a girlfriend or compliment her in any way.
- He simply states that she is a woman and women can help men in certain ways. This is obviously referring to sexual acts.
- Since Lelouch is so vague any woman could have fulfilled his desire, not specifically Kallen.
- He only asks Kallen since she requested orders if left alone Lelouch probably would have ignored her.
- Also, on a minor note, how exactly is Lelouch forcing himself on Kallen proof that he loves her.
Lelouch has never really expressed any emotion of love towards Kallen in the anime.
He might have said something in an undertone or shown her kindness, but that’s not good enough to be conclusive evidence.
Lelouch only seemed to see her as a great Knightmare pilot and his right hand of the black knights never really showing much interest as Kallen as a person.
Lelouch forcing himself on Kallen. Code Geass R2 Episode 7 at 12m 24s
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Kallen was never a high priority for him
In R2 episode 11 Lelouch declares that he along with the black knights will find Kallen. But she does not seem to be a high priority because Lelouch has other objectives to complete before he can rescue her.
Lelouch has proven to act drastically when someone he truly cares about is in danger but does not do this for Kallen. He acts with his emotions when someone he loves has been captured or in physical danger. You could argue that his reaction towards Kallen capture indicates that he might not actually care.
So if Lelouch wanted to know he would have rescued Kallen right away. To add insult to injury Kallen’s rescue was a secondary objective anyway.
Lelouch only took action to rescue Nunnally Kallen just happened to be in the building.
One could argue that if they did not go to rescue Nunnally who knows when they would have come for Kallen.
Here are some other important things to note:
- Reducing Kallen was a major part of the plan. Lelouch does state in the objectives when they attack the Tokyo Settlement.
- When Kallen arrives to save Lelouch and the other Black Knights everyone including Lelouch is surprised to see her. This implies that no expected Kallen to come back to the battlefield during this operation. If Kallen was a priority for Lelouch getting her back on the battlefield would have been part of the plan.
- After the F.L.E.I.J.A warhead goes off Lelouch only shows concerns about Nunnally and not Kallen. Remember Kallen was literally in front of Suzaku before he fired the weapon. So she could have been killed by it but Lelouch again does not seem to care.
Now Lelouch did say he would rescue her but the keyword is when. Lelouch never says when he would go save Kallen which lessens the importance of the rescue. Saying one will do something is different than actually doing it. There is even a scene where he tells C.C. we will rescue Kallen but first I need to go to Area 11.
Lelouch never consoles Kallen after she is rescued which is aggravating because she went through a traumatic experience.
The scene that follows is Kallen walking in on C.C. and Lelouch thinking they are about to have sex. She expresses that she is angry about their actions and how tone death their actions are.
Lelouch never cares to bring up Kallen’s capture other than apologizing for taking so long.
Lelouch was never completely honest with Kallen. For example, He never told Kallen that he used his Geass on her. Instead, he just said that Kallen’s mind was her own which was a lie. In R2 episode 22, the black knights had measures in case anyone suspects that Lelouch had used his Geass on Kallen.
I also found his jokes to Kallen to be insulting and mean spirited instead of just playful teasing.
Kallen finally being rescued by the black knights. Code Geass R2 Episode 18 at 10m
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Final Verdict
No matter what Kallen did she could not get Lelouch to love her back. She makes many advances even going as far as to kiss him but Lelouch simply did not care.
Lelouch never opens up to her and aside from a few instances and never showed any romantic interest for her. This might have been excusable in R1 when Kallen did not know his identity. But this continued in R2 when Kallen knew who he was.
Despite Kallen even falling in love with the real Lelouch it was not going to get him to love her back.
By the way here is a detailed analysis of Kallen’s relationship with Lelouch.
So, Lelouch respected Kallen as a friend and ally as well as his most powerful piece to deploy into the battlefield. But there is no evidence that he ever saw her as a love interest.
Lelouch having a laugh at Kallen’s expense. Code Geass R1 Episode 3 at 21m 3s
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Who Did Lelouch Really Love? The Case for CC
We have clear evidence from R2 episode 24 that Lelouch shows a mutual interest in C.C.
C.C. says “in all my life I have never met a man quite like you”
Lelouch then responds with “C.C.” in a loving tone and moves in to embrace only to be interrupted by Kallen (now they technically did not hug but what do you think was going to happen a friendly handshake). Ironically because in R2 episode 9 C.C. interrupted Kallen and Lelouch’s moment together.
This is the most amount of interest that Lelouch has shown compared to his other love interests, Kallen and Shirley. Beyond that, we have plenty of other examples where Lelouch has shown interest in C.C.
Lelouch confessing his love for C.C. Code Geass R2 Episode 24 at 8m 12s
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Lelouch and CC exchange in light-hearted/flirtatious insults.
Here are my favorite examples:
- My favorite is when Lady Kaguya mentions that she wants to marry Lelouch but he tells her I already have a deal with the devil in episode 23 of R1. Here is my analysis of why C.C. kisses Lelouch which relates to that moment.
- R1 Stage 24 Lelouch says “don’t die” and C.C. says “who are you talking to “
- R2 Turn 2 at C.C. says”are those theatrics necessary” and Lelouch says “I don’t need comments from an immortal witch”
- R2 Turn 10 C.C. asks Lelouch if he needed to use a truth serum and he responds with yes its called Geass
- R2 Turn 11 C.C. says “the devil grows up” and Lelouch says “you are still a witch”
- R2 Turn 22 he says sarcastically to C.C. how people love their democracy
Lelouch and C.C. enjoy each other’s company which includes making fun of each other. This is not at all like when Lelouch rudely insults Kallen without any of the playfulness.
An example of C.C. smiling at Lelouch’s teasing. Code Geass R2 Episode 2 at 7m 10s
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Another sign that Lelouch considers CC a romantic partner was how he opened up to her.
This is a very significant disquisition between how Lelouch has interreacted with both Kallen and Shirly in the anime.
Lelouch has shared his plans, concerns, insecurities, and setbacks to C.C. They have had so many debates on life and C.C is the only one who gives Lelouch the feedback that he needs.
This is all speculation but Lelouch probably loves C.C. the most because she was an actual partner to him.
Kallen was the ace of the Black Knights who wanted to follow Zero orders and Shirly had a crush but could never go beyond that to make Lelouch hers.
But with C.C., Lelouch found someone who he felt he could go the next level beyond simple lust. It’s one of the reasons why he trusts her to help him out in a pinch.
Now you could argue that the reason why C.C. ends becoming Lelouch’s romantic partner is that she has to be with him and that forced closeness would bring them together.
But just because she had more time does not mean it would have guaranteed anything, if anything being together too much might have driven them apart.
CC challenging Lelouch. Code Geass R1 Episode 14 at 7m 10s
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So beyond all of this, we have even more evidence.
In R2 episode 16 Lelouch responds to C.C.’s wish that she can’t die because it would be very sad.
We have seen that Lelouch tells people including each of the love interests to not die.
Lelouch constantly asks C.C. to be careful. We see in this R1 Stage 25 when he tells her to be careful when fighting Jeremiah and again in R2 Turn 11 he asks her to have an escape route if his plans fail.
This is adorable because despite knowing that C.C. is immortal he still wants to know that she is okay. I cannot recall a time where he tells Kalle to be safe when she is off to fight.
You can even see that Lelouch cares more about C.C. because he takes care of her when her memories are sealed away. You could compare it to the level of care he shows Nunnally.
There is even this sweet moment where Lelouch towards the end of the Zero Requiem is sitting on a bed back to back to C.C. The two-exchange a heartfelt conversation about being determined to see this plan through.
I especially like the scene where C.C. hugs Lelouch after the incident in the Special Administrative Zone of Japan.
You just don’t see these kinds of moments with Kallen and only a few scenes with Shirley.
CC vowing to stay by Lelouch’s side. Code GeassR1 Episode 23 at 13m 16s
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Who Did Lelouch Really Love? The Case against CC
Despite the overwhelming evidence in favor, there are some things working against C.C.
But I am going to look past that to try and find reasons why this could have been a one-sided affair if at all.
Lelouch might have only acted that way towards C.C. simply because they are co-conspirators and he needs to fulfill his contract. Lelouch has made this point very clear to C.C. many times throughout.
Another factor is during the conflict with Mao, Lelouch shows anger towards C.C. He calls her a monster because of the fact she does not discuss the contract she gives out. He basically claimed that she ruins people’s lives.
It’s possible this anger towards her also kept the two at ease. Lelouch does state that he needs C.C. but that might have just been that she is an immortal witch and can help Lelouch in ways no one else can.
Final Verdict:
Lelouch made his intentions clear to C.C. in episode 24. Beyond that if you take the constant flirting he does, the fact that he opens to her and you have a solid case for why Lelouch loves C.C. more than the others.
CC and Lelouch discussing the Geass Powers. Code Geass R1 Episode 5 at 4m 10s
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Final Thoughts
Fans will continue to debate this topic for years to come. But from looking at the facts there is more evidence the Lelouch has more romantic feelings towards C.C. than the other love interests.
He demonstrates not only his actions but how he treats C.C. over Kallen.
Even from the narrative, C.C. had a stronger impact on Lelouch’s story and life.
He thanks her for the Geass and mentions how it did not ruin his life and only made it better.
I wish Code Geass followed Clannad and made OVAs where Lelouch is with Shirly and Kallen. Doing this would give all the fans what they really want which is seeing their favorite Lelouch ship animated.
Also, keep in mind since nothing is ever confirmed this is all speculation. But I would say that there is a 90% chance that Lelouch loved C.C. over the others. I said I would directly use the films as proof but it is interesting how they make the couple cannon at the end.
Who did Lelouch really love is a question that was never definitely answered in Code Geass Lelouch of the Rebellion. It can be answered through the perspective of the fans and now you know mine.
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Depends on what you mean? if its romanticly i would agree with C.C. however if ur talking about a brod sence then his sister Nanally wich Lelush whould do anything for.
thanks for commenting on this article. I mention at the very beginning “I am of course referring to simply declaring his love for any of the romantic love interests.” This means that this about who did Lelouch love romantically. I do agree that Nunnally is probably the one that he loves the most in general.
I agree.i just wish they would confirm something.i really want to know.but in my head he loved cc and had a weird way of showing it.if he was using her the show makers would make it clear.even if they dont love each other theres a really deep relationship that cant be explain.
Yeah, it’s true even if Lelouch does not love C.C., their relationship is amazing. They both help each other out. And they exchange so many interesting and deep conversations. Each one has pulled the other from hell’s itself. It’s so rewarding to see the relationship evolve through the series.
Yes, C.C won in the end. They have been my ship since the beginning of Code Geass. I’m very certain that a lot of fans rejoiced about this fact. Long Live the Witch and the Warlock/Devil!
I am glad that you enjoyed the article. After going through all the evidence Lelouch showed the most love towards C.C. Of course we now have their romance confirmed in the alternative universe with the release of Lelouch of the Re;surrection. Did you watch that film yet?
She won in the AU verse in the anime verse Lelouch and her were sunk “Lelouch never yearned for her as a lover or as a mother) this post is just full of bias, twisting everything about Lelouch and CC as romantic and diminishing everything about any other girls as something else
I will always be mad for the interrupted interaction we got in episode 24 :( I just watched the series this week and it has become one of my all time favorites so its always fun to read stuff like this
Yeah, I agree we will never know for sure what was going to happen. But I am pretty sure we know where that was going
Too many words to say Lelouch loved Nunnally the most. Incest was (as is still kind of) normal in nobility, not too hard to understand how and why Nunnally got to be the Empress
Did you know that Milly Asford was also a potential love interest? A real shame that it was never developed in the anime. It was talked about in the side materials, such as the season 1 sound dramas. Were it not for V.V. killing Lelouch’s mother, he and Milly might had been a couple. Here is link that is the audio drama and Milly and Lelouch.
https://codegeass.fandom.com/wiki/Dear_My_Friend
thanks for the feedback and I like how you brought up this point with the potential of Lelouch and Milly being a couple. There are many hints in the anime itself where something could have happened.
I think Shirley and Lelouch love each other, its just fate gotten their ways.
Lelouch was drafted to be an Emperor from the beginning. Each of his personas has at least one love interest: his childhood/intended Emperor has Euphemia and Milly, the normal student is Shirley, Kallen to the Masked Crusader. Unfortunately for them all, C.C is the one who follows him in every path possible. This comes from me, a diehard Lelouch x Kallen shipper.
Lmao no Kallen lover would say Kallen was all about Zero, stop fooling yourself.
I think I must disagree with at least one point, the one about Lelouch being surprised to see Kallen back on the battlefield and the interpretation that it’s a proof Lelouch doesn’t care about her. Freeing a prisoner is one thing, expecting them to return immediately to the battlefield is another. I rather think that Lelouch and the others are surprised that, despite being a prisoner for a period of time, Kallen is fully fit and able to fight. They are all the more surprised that she pilots the Guren, which the British army had confiscated. I mean, if a Knightframe is confiscated by the enemy, it’s more expected to be piloted by an enemy than an ally when it reappears on the battlefield, no?
Seriously You seem to forget all of the side material who goes against your whole interpretation of the anime, it’s one thing to have bias, it’s another to twist things so much ; In her side stuff Kallen clearly states that he did love her and that’s why he pushed her away (and given her profile say she finally understood his feelings it’s hard to call her delusional.)
Yu twist every Lelouch and CC momnts and try to sneak in your interpretation, but there was nothing to be interpretated; For a romance we need : Romantic moments, physical attraction, confession.
If we go by the first season Lelouch and CC had a great basis, but R2 destroyed that;
CC could have been a support for him when he had a breakdown in Turn 7, when he lost Shirley, and she could have even talked him out of Zero Requiem. She did NOTHING.
In turn 7 she states that she needs him alive and he’d have turned into a junkie had it been not for Kallen and his friends, after Shirley’s death she let him to on a genocide rampage intead of talking some sense into him, letting him once again go down the awful path that will lead to his death and when he finally learns about her contract, and that they can have a real honest devellopment (lmao not honest actually) she locks her memories ON HER OWN leaving him once again broken after one more loss, since the real CC is gone.
CC cares for him but she said so herself, she is selfish, she does things for her own personnal gain, while Lelouch is selfless; In tUrn 21 same thing, we learn that she knew everything and was part of the plan with Lelouch’s sworn enemy and casually changes sides cause it fits her;
At the end of the episode Lelouch is utterly pissed at her when after he asks her is she is going to die she tells him he has to make her smile; Ironically I didn’t saw you talk about those moments where he just unleash his rage at her, same in Turn 23 when he learns that Nunnaly is alive and snaps at her when, for once, she was innocent and didn’t have any means to know.
What has CC done for him in R2, CC who is supposed to love him ? She let him go down the path of carnage and depression, she hides valuable information for him and she never interfered with any of his decision when she would have been able to smask some sense into him and finally she conforts him about Zero requiem being the right decision when he asks her is that’s the case in Turn 23; Great she basically lead him to the path of suicide.
In Turn 24 the most important part isn’t the kiss you were expecting, since it was never meant to be a kiss, it was just a ship tease as a payback for Turn 9 and had there been any physical contact it would have more likely been a hug, cause in order to have a kiss, you need to have a build up, a romantic tension, a physical attraction, something Lelouch has showsn with others girls but never C.C..
A kiss would have never made any sense that’s why it never happenned, the most important part of Turn 24 is Lelouch not hating CC fr giving him eass, cause CC has been constantly hated by her contractors through the time, they put all responsabilities on her and Lelouch, being the selfless being he is, once again take all responsabilities, like he did with Euphie’s death or Shirley’s, he doesn’t hate her for that and that has a deep impact on C.C.
Did C.C. loved Lelouch ? She doesn’t know herself but if she did love him her love was terribly twisted, if Lelouch was a junkie she’d be the one fetching him more drug, such a romantic relationship.
Now on Lelouch’s part when did he ever shared any romantic moment or has shown any physical attraction toward CC ? NEVER. Or in the promotionnal artwork which are just that, promotional, The guy lived with her for a year, saw her dress and undress in front of him, she was his closest ally, he even ended up spending the whole of ZR with her and NOTHING happened, he died a virgin. That’s already pretty telling, but pust him 2 seconds with Kallen, and even Shirley to some extent, and suddenly he is a teenager once again;
He flirted with Kallen numerous times, he blushed at her in a picture drama, he tried to have sex with her because they had a build up before and we knew he was attracted by her, it’s a story, there needs to be a build up for things to make sense and youw whole analysis totally miss that you just go by your interpretation of scene which don’t need to be interpretated.
The guy even thought about his date with her in ashford in said picture drama which was about his happiest memories, how can you deny he felt something for her, he could have thought about a happy time with CC, or with Nunnaly or with any of his Ashford friends, but no, his happy memory involved a date with Kallen and the sight of her naked body making him blush (Lelouch, blushing ? Seriously)
I think it’s quite awful how people imagine this anime instead of actually watching it and understanding it; Lelouch and CC had the upper hand in S1 I fully agree but R2 sunk that ship (and official material as well “Lelouch never yearned for her a lover” how can it be more obvious ?)
While For Kallen it’s all about “you didn’t told me you loved me because you ddin’t want to me to follow you to hell”, or “thank you for your love” or “she keeps her love for him within her heart” and you even have the bloody last flashback of Lelouch, with a pause on Three moments including Kallen’s kiss, how can it be more obvious ? p
Your whole analysis fit totally Re;surrection but not Rebellion, it’s like you watches the show through promotional material, it doens’t make sense.
Sorry for the long post but I love this anime and I’m tired of seeing people trying to make of it some guilty crown version of CG.
FAX!!!!
wait whats the picture drama pf kallen date with lelouch
I saw your long post and was very excited to read it.
Unfortunately after going through it I am very disappointed.
In your rambling some of the points you make are valid but most are awful.
One of the issues with your points is you are doing what you accused me of, miss interpreting stuff.
Some points to consider.
In the poem, Kallen doesn’t state that Lelouch loved her definitely.
Kallen stated if he told her even as a lie she would have followed him.
So what we learn is Lelouch protected her because he understood her feelings that’s it.
There’s nothing else you can gain from that.
You missed the point of the picture drama Lelouch didn’t mention the date he mentioned the general memories at Ashford that he missed.
(that could even include things with Shirley and C.C.)
Lelouch didn’t flit with Kallen he embarrassed her several times.
There was no build-up to them that would lead to their encounter in Turn 7.
You state Lelouch was attracted to Kallen even though that was never confirmed in the story.
I wasn’t really twisting the scene in Turn 7 but rather just stating what happened and what reasonable things we can learn from it.
You didn’t really counter any of my points so…
I don’t even know where to begin with your C.C. points because all of them ignore everything I mentioned and forget who C.C. is, to begin with.
You seem to use the Geass Order, The Zero Requiem, and Turn 7 as proof that C.C. didn’t love Lelouch while ignoring everything else.
You got certain parts wrong to prove your points ironic since you accused me of that.
Like what she said in Turn 21.
Overall it seems like you are not happy that I went with the majority opinion on this.
I presented good arguments for each that you simply didn’t agree with which is fine.
Keep in mind nothing is definitive and I tried to make that clear.
If you want to go with the official material that Lelouch didn’t love C.c.
Fine but if that’s the case then he only had feelings for Shirley then.
Keep in mind the goal of this essay was to interrupt the original anime to answer this question.
I would make sure in the future to re-check your sources before incorrectly presenting them in your arguments.
P.S. nobody is trying to turn Code Geass into Guilty Crown most fans have no idea what that even is.
Stop projecting your views on to others.
Dame man you ruined my hope
Lelouch actually had real flirt and proven romantic attraction to Kallen; most of your view on Lelouch and CC are due to your interpretation, how is banter a token of romance ?
It’s a proof of closeness and friendship, this agree, but turning everything about C.C. and Lelouch as romantic when they lack physical attraction/sexual attraction/Obvious romance moment doesn’t prove much.
On the other side you disminish really easily everything about Kallen ; he flirts with her in Turn 5 : Nothing ; he wants to sleep with her after actually commenting on her look/having blushed at her in picture drama/ teasing her about their relationship : it’s only because she is a girl;
That’s not it, it’s because they had a build up, we had moment before that which built him acting upon his attraction ; If the guy only wanted to have sex he’d have geassed a girl on the street or have hooked up with a girl in Ashford. He asked her that because it was her;
Ironically the one time where Kallen is there to support him he asks her for physical comfort, while after spending his whole time with CC, seeing her dress, undress, and offer comfort, he still managed to die as a virgin. That’s not romance, that’s partnership, equality at best, but when even on C.C.’s side we aren’t sure she actually loved him (as she doesn’t seem to know herself) and when on Lelouch’s side there is nothing to prove any ambiguity while they were always together, i’d say it says a lot.
As a fellow Code Geass fan I understand people can view and interpret things differently but when it comes to fact I think you might want to take a few step back and rethink the whole thing. If it was about the Movies AU I’d side with you, there, there was Lelouch/C.C., no doubt about that; in the Canon Anime, not so much.
Take care and thanks for the article anyway
Lelouch embarrassed Kallen multiple times that’s not flirting.
Lelouch and C.C. did have real flirting moments.
There’s emotional and physical attraction and it’s clear that C.C. and Lelouch have an emotional attraction.
But there was that scene in Turn 11 where he stares at her on the couch after she took off her uniform so…
How do you interpret a throwaway joke in Turn 5 as an immediate sign that he wants to sleep with her?
I already debunked the picture drama in a previous comment.
There was no build-up for the thousandth time.
If Lelouch really loved Kallen why would he force himself on her by stating she’s a girl and can provide something only a woman can?
Why didn’t he talk to her later about this? (that scene in Turn 9 doesn’t count)
I am referring to a scene where he invites her to his room and they finish what they started.
he didn’t use Geass on a random girl because he wanted to be alone.
Lelouch was in a really bad mental state, and only humored Kallen because she kept bothering hin.
Not how Lelouch didn’t immediately ask her to do the deed rather only after she kept bothering him.
And as I mentioned the language is important but you don’t seem to care about that.
Since Lelouch said he was going to make C.C. smile you can interpret it as he’s interested in being with her.
This makes sense because in Turn 24 they almost kissed.
Using your own logic I would call that set up for that moment.
There is also that scene in Turn 15 where Lelouch talks C.C. out of dying.
In your viewpoint if a couple doesn’t do it there’s no romance.
This is completely wrong and you know it.
I have already covered if C.C. loved Lelouch and again you are right we don’t know for sure.
That was the whole point of these articles nothing is definitive so it’s fun to speculate.
But there is plenty of evidence to say she did.
The only one here who needs to take a step back is you.
Most of your opinions are based on getting the events of the story wrong.
You base many of your arguments on flawed logic.
I believe that Lelouch truly loved Shirley, the only person who saw him for who he was from his faux life and still loved him regardless. If Shirley lived, there’s no saying how much she could have helped the Black Knights or his Emperorship later on tbh.
I do not believe Kallen is in love with Lelouch. Her feelings are clearly misguided and misplaced, especially considering her intense trauma. I think this is just a bizarre ship and people who like it don’t understand Kallen’s character enough.
As for CC…. this is more of a case of Lelouch seeing her as an equal. I do not think CC has romantic feelings for Lelouch the same way that he does for her, but even then, I do think his feelings are more Freudian. Incestuous feelings are not foreign in this anime, especially with Lelouch admitting his first love was Euphy and for his relationship with Nunnally as a whole.
Nah if Lelouch could have accomplished his goal and been able to return to his everyday life he would have picked Shirley without a second thought. And this is coming from someone who ships him with Kallen the most. Lelouch loved Shirley before zero, during zero, and after zero. I believe he loved all 3 girls though without a doubt. Any of them could have ended up his partner and it would have made sense. All the reasons you use against Shirley make zero sense. We see them tg the least bc she’s the only one not involved in battle. We rarely see him and nana tg most of the time but we all know he loves her. Out of all the women he kisses in the show he only shows that much passion for Shirley. And some can argue it’s bc of her state of mind in that moment but I don’t believe that is the reason. We all know Lelouchs goals are always number 1 in his mind but his goals are directly for the ppl he loves. So yes he put Shirley’s date on a back burner. But he still rushed there when he was able even though he was super late and had no reason to believe she was still waiting. If he could have returned to school after all was said and done and been with Shirley he would have. I feel like the only reason there’s any CC fans is because of the forced proximity and bc of their fate being tied together. Kallen is my fav of the 3 girls for him but he loved Shirley the most. Without a doubt.